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		<title>By: TS</title>
		<link>http://www.nycskeptics.org/blog/neti-pot-or-nutty-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-1014</link>
		<dc:creator>TS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience the neti pot worked out wonderfully. I was a skeptic at first too, pouring saline solution up your nose? Thats ridiculous. Then I landed myself with a sinus infection, had no insurance to go to a doctor and all the meds I tried to clear the pressure and congestion didn&#039;t work. I would blow my nose and it would come out clean but I still had trouble breathing and my teeth were so achy I could feel it with every step. So I bit the bullet and bought a neti pot and tried it out.  did so daily for a week and my teeth were no longer hurting, I had productive nose blows and so I slowed down to every 3 days or so and now I just use it when I get sick, the air is super dry or allergies are having me wake up all uncomfortable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience the neti pot worked out wonderfully. I was a skeptic at first too, pouring saline solution up your nose? Thats ridiculous. Then I landed myself with a sinus infection, had no insurance to go to a doctor and all the meds I tried to clear the pressure and congestion didn&#8217;t work. I would blow my nose and it would come out clean but I still had trouble breathing and my teeth were so achy I could feel it with every step. So I bit the bullet and bought a neti pot and tried it out.  did so daily for a week and my teeth were no longer hurting, I had productive nose blows and so I slowed down to every 3 days or so and now I just use it when I get sick, the air is super dry or allergies are having me wake up all uncomfortable.</p>
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		<title>By: Neti Pots for Sinus Congestion: Validated science? &#171; Science-Based Pharmacy</title>
		<link>http://www.nycskeptics.org/blog/neti-pot-or-nutty-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-760</link>
		<dc:creator>Neti Pots for Sinus Congestion: Validated science? &#171; Science-Based Pharmacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
		<link>http://www.nycskeptics.org/blog/neti-pot-or-nutty-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-349</link>
		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 16:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How do you create a sham procedure to give to a control population? How do you fake shoving water up someone’s nose?&quot;

A simple option for a sham procedure would be to give people cotton swabs that you claim are treated with medicine and have them stick one up their nostril for a couple seconds each day instead of using a neti pot. This would likely be enough to invoke a placebo response, which should be sufficient to act as a sham procedure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How do you create a sham procedure to give to a control population? How do you fake shoving water up someone’s nose?&#8221;</p>
<p>A simple option for a sham procedure would be to give people cotton swabs that you claim are treated with medicine and have them stick one up their nostril for a couple seconds each day instead of using a neti pot. This would likely be enough to invoke a placebo response, which should be sufficient to act as a sham procedure.</p>
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		<title>By: Different Beth</title>
		<link>http://www.nycskeptics.org/blog/neti-pot-or-nutty-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>Different Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For over 20 years, I had averaged six sinus infections a year due to chronic sinusitis. I&#039;m one of those who laughs at homeopathy, and rolled my eyes when my new GP, fresh out of med school, told me to use a Neti pot while being treated for a sinus infection. But I figured it cost very little to try it, and if it hurried my recovery even a little it was worth a try. I did the sinus wash (using a baking soda/salt packet a little plastic teapot) in conjunction with the same antibiotics and same nasal spray I always used. 

That was 12 months ago. I haven&#039;t caught another cold or sinus infection since. I used it every day while being treated with the antibiotics and nasal spray, and then backed down to once a week (on the admittedly half-baked theory that this would keep the crust from re-accumulating). Maybe this was just the magic 83rd time of taking that combination of drugs, but I have to suspect that the wild card of adding the sinus wash played a role in pushing the efficacy of the treatment to a higher level.

I called the doc to discuss it with her, and her take was that the saline wash a) physically clears the sinuses (including gradually removing the crust you mention); b) the baking soda helps make the pH level less hospitable to bacteria, and c) the salt helps shrink swollen mucous membranes. 

I had no expectation of the sinus wash working, so I don&#039;t think the placebo effect played a significant role in my recovery; in fact, I only realized after about 3 months that I had been well for the longest stretch of time since my teens, and looked back then and decided there might be something to this sinus wash business after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For over 20 years, I had averaged six sinus infections a year due to chronic sinusitis. I&#8217;m one of those who laughs at homeopathy, and rolled my eyes when my new GP, fresh out of med school, told me to use a Neti pot while being treated for a sinus infection. But I figured it cost very little to try it, and if it hurried my recovery even a little it was worth a try. I did the sinus wash (using a baking soda/salt packet a little plastic teapot) in conjunction with the same antibiotics and same nasal spray I always used. </p>
<p>That was 12 months ago. I haven&#8217;t caught another cold or sinus infection since. I used it every day while being treated with the antibiotics and nasal spray, and then backed down to once a week (on the admittedly half-baked theory that this would keep the crust from re-accumulating). Maybe this was just the magic 83rd time of taking that combination of drugs, but I have to suspect that the wild card of adding the sinus wash played a role in pushing the efficacy of the treatment to a higher level.</p>
<p>I called the doc to discuss it with her, and her take was that the saline wash a) physically clears the sinuses (including gradually removing the crust you mention); b) the baking soda helps make the pH level less hospitable to bacteria, and c) the salt helps shrink swollen mucous membranes. </p>
<p>I had no expectation of the sinus wash working, so I don&#8217;t think the placebo effect played a significant role in my recovery; in fact, I only realized after about 3 months that I had been well for the longest stretch of time since my teens, and looked back then and decided there might be something to this sinus wash business after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Kirkman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Kirkman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t claim sinus irrigation is a &quot;magical&quot; cure for all sinus ills.  However, I can throw one more little bit of anecdotal evidence onto the pile:

1. I have personally found nasal irrigation very effective during pollen season in Atlanta, which can be brutal for allergy sufferers.  In past years, I would need antihistamines every day for three months to avoid acute suffering.  Using a neti pot twice a day has alleviated symptoms, to the point that I take antihistamines only one or two days out of the entire season.

2. I have also found it useful for symptom relief when I am suffering from a common head cold.  I don&#039;t claim it shortens the duration of the cold (compared to what?), or that it is any way a &quot;cure&quot;.  It does help me keep my sinuses clear without decongestants, of which I&#039;ve never been particularly fond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t claim sinus irrigation is a &#8220;magical&#8221; cure for all sinus ills.  However, I can throw one more little bit of anecdotal evidence onto the pile:</p>
<p>1. I have personally found nasal irrigation very effective during pollen season in Atlanta, which can be brutal for allergy sufferers.  In past years, I would need antihistamines every day for three months to avoid acute suffering.  Using a neti pot twice a day has alleviated symptoms, to the point that I take antihistamines only one or two days out of the entire season.</p>
<p>2. I have also found it useful for symptom relief when I am suffering from a common head cold.  I don&#8217;t claim it shortens the duration of the cold (compared to what?), or that it is any way a &#8220;cure&#8221;.  It does help me keep my sinuses clear without decongestants, of which I&#8217;ve never been particularly fond.</p>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am wondering not so much about whether this prevents sinus infections as if it provides relief after you&#039;ve had a cold or sinus infection, when you feel like there&#039;s dried out or thick mucus still sitting in your sinuses. I can often feel when there is a hard chunk of ick and eventually it will come out when I blow my nose. I&#039;ve tried squirting nasal saline solution spray up my nose and it does help loosen stuff which I can then blow out. So usually after a cold, for several weeks, I&#039;m left blowing globs of stuff out of my sinuses. 


 So what I&#039;m wondering is if pouring the liquid in will clear out my sinuses more efficiently in the weeks after a bad cold, and thus make me more comfortable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering not so much about whether this prevents sinus infections as if it provides relief after you&#8217;ve had a cold or sinus infection, when you feel like there&#8217;s dried out or thick mucus still sitting in your sinuses. I can often feel when there is a hard chunk of ick and eventually it will come out when I blow my nose. I&#8217;ve tried squirting nasal saline solution spray up my nose and it does help loosen stuff which I can then blow out. So usually after a cold, for several weeks, I&#8217;m left blowing globs of stuff out of my sinuses. </p>
<p> So what I&#8217;m wondering is if pouring the liquid in will clear out my sinuses more efficiently in the weeks after a bad cold, and thus make me more comfortable.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://www.nycskeptics.org/blog/neti-pot-or-nutty-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-282</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!  

I love my neti pot! I use it to relieve congestion and pressure in my sinuses that result from colds or allergies.  I don&#039;t care if it prevents sinusitis or not, just getting that mucous flowing and out of my forehead is worth the price of ten neti pots.

My ENT cautioned me to wash it between uses (duh) because apparently a lot of people let them sit around for a long time and thus culture bacteria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  </p>
<p>I love my neti pot! I use it to relieve congestion and pressure in my sinuses that result from colds or allergies.  I don&#8217;t care if it prevents sinusitis or not, just getting that mucous flowing and out of my forehead is worth the price of ten neti pots.</p>
<p>My ENT cautioned me to wash it between uses (duh) because apparently a lot of people let them sit around for a long time and thus culture bacteria.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I occasionally use a neti pot.  But only to help rinse out when I am feeling stuffed up, to thin the mucus.  With all the home remodeling we have been doing there can be quite a lot of dust stirred up.  And when I had a cold it seemed to help get it drained.  I don&#039;t find it is of much benefit on a daily basis if I&#039;m not having sysptoms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I occasionally use a neti pot.  But only to help rinse out when I am feeling stuffed up, to thin the mucus.  With all the home remodeling we have been doing there can be quite a lot of dust stirred up.  And when I had a cold it seemed to help get it drained.  I don&#8217;t find it is of much benefit on a daily basis if I&#8217;m not having sysptoms.</p>
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		<title>By: gaiainc</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaiainc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad thing is that I did a journal club on an article that looked at nasal saline lavage in the treatment of sinusitis, but I can&#039;t find the article nor the authors.  What I remember that we concluded was that the benefit to harm ratio of nasal saline lavage was sufficiently low that if a patient wanted to try it, that it would unlikely to harm them and likely help. 

That said, the other thing I remember from the journal club was that the authors had done a small study looking at nasal saline lavage as a preventative measure.  The study was stopped early because the patients were developing ear infections at a higher rate.  So it seems that if you&#039;re going to do nasal saline lavage, do it when sick and not healthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad thing is that I did a journal club on an article that looked at nasal saline lavage in the treatment of sinusitis, but I can&#8217;t find the article nor the authors.  What I remember that we concluded was that the benefit to harm ratio of nasal saline lavage was sufficiently low that if a patient wanted to try it, that it would unlikely to harm them and likely help. </p>
<p>That said, the other thing I remember from the journal club was that the authors had done a small study looking at nasal saline lavage as a preventative measure.  The study was stopped early because the patients were developing ear infections at a higher rate.  So it seems that if you&#8217;re going to do nasal saline lavage, do it when sick and not healthy.</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any saline nasal irrigation will do, but just squirting some saline wont do the trick.  It is all about volume.  you have to wash out the pollen, allergins, mucus, and bacteria.  The neti pot happens to be a handy way to do the nasal irrigation.  Also it takes some time (a few weeks) to get the technique down, but once you do it is worth it.  You will never see a well done study on Neti pots (unless it is done by the NIH ) because noone can make money off of such a study. The clogged ears does happen, it is matter of adjusting your technique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any saline nasal irrigation will do, but just squirting some saline wont do the trick.  It is all about volume.  you have to wash out the pollen, allergins, mucus, and bacteria.  The neti pot happens to be a handy way to do the nasal irrigation.  Also it takes some time (a few weeks) to get the technique down, but once you do it is worth it.  You will never see a well done study on Neti pots (unless it is done by the NIH ) because noone can make money off of such a study. The clogged ears does happen, it is matter of adjusting your technique.</p>
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